Comments on: Vancouver airport denies any responsibility in Dziekanski’s death

By: cowabunga

cowabunga — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 07:24:43 +0000

You’re going to read out of it what you want, and based on your comments to every single article, you’re going to find fault with the RCMP on everything, regardless of what the incident was. They do it one way, it’s wrong, they do it the other way, it’s wrong. The most vocal people are often the ones who sit at a desk all day with their rose coloured glasses on who have never even come close to being in a similar position, and who never will. It’s not like television, superstar. When you cause the police to attend as a result of your actions, there is always a risk involved. Best way to avoid that risk… don’t commit crimes.

Again, I didn’t say he was entirely at fault, I said he shares blame in this and was not entirely innocent. Any time something like this happens, the “victim” is portrayed as an angel in the media and any part he played in his own demise is severely downplayed, glossed over and forgotten.

He was “misunderstood,” “just turning his life around,” etc. “Such a good boy!” How many times do we see that in every one of these types of deaths.. And the family clutches a photo of their poor, misunderstood relative with a little halo painted on. Bull shit. Dziekanski was a raging alcoholic on welfare with mental issues..who served federal time for armed robbery. He certainly was no angel. He didn’t deserve to die, but he could have easily also prevented the whole encounter. He is not innocent in any of this. Blame everyone else though.. it’s very in style these days. You did nothing wrong.

In Poland the police dress in army fatigues and openly carry machine guns in the airport. I dare you to go and pull the same stunt over there and see how it plays out.

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By: Social Critic

Social Critic — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:18:14 +0000

Not only is there a very clear implication in your cruel words that Mr. Dziekanski bears responsibility for his own death by not learning English…reread your own post if you like…but you also gratuitously heap insult on the dead with a non sequitur about Polish welfare. Only in the hyper-critical and clearly persecution complected world of the neo-con does such anger and derision with the poor and the disadvantaged find such perfect expression.

But wait, it gets even better. In the urge to heap more abuse on the dead you invent from whole cloth, drivel about him threatening to sue the authorities. You have no knowledge of that but you put it out there to what…abuse him more in the exercise of your antipathy toward a person who deserved better from Canadian authorities?

No, that’s not my opinion. It’s the finding of the RCMP Complaints Commissioner. Try taking some personal responsibility yourself and admit what is clear to so many…he deserved not to die. And he deserves better than to be abused in his grave by you. For shame.

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By: cowabunga

cowabunga — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:10:05 +0000

I don’t think I said he deserved to die because he didn’t learn English. I said it’s not Vancouver Airport’s fault that he was unable to communicate with anyone and sat around for hours. The whole situation could have been avoided if Mr. Dziekanski had prepared himself in the years he had to do so. He was not innocent in this whole matter either.

At least he got his final wish though. When he is smashing furniture and screaming, I’m sure you realize that he’s yelling that he’s going to smash everything and sue everyone. It’s nice that his final wish was carried out and his family is suing everyone.

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By: Social Critic

Social Critic — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:26:12 +0000

Big deal. I can get myself out of a wet paper bag in Germany too. But you miss the point mein kleiner freund.

It matters not a tick or a toss what you or I think about the case. Frankly, it matters little what the airport authority thinks either. Or for that matter, what Zofia Cisowski believes. But it matters a great deal what the court thinks and how it rules. And that’s the point…so heuschrecke, as the Zen master so wisely observed…you guessed it…we’ll see.

And not for nothing, there are a at least a few around who think failure to learn English might not be quite a good enough reason to kill someone. The nerve! And blaming the dead guy might be a tad cruel…or is it insensitive…there are a number of choices. Make sense of that!

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By: cowabunga

cowabunga — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 03:18:56 +0000

So it’s everyone else’s fault.. shocking. This guy had 8 years to learn a few words of english or french while he was sitting at home on his duff on the polish equivalent of welfare, waiting to get the thumbs up to come here.

Everyone else should not have to accommodate you.. you should take responsibility for yourself. I go on vacation for 2 weeks to Germany and I learn enough German to get myself out of a wet paper bag.

I think it’s ridiculous to blame the airport. He got stuck there because HE couldn’t communicate as a result of HIS lack of preparation. Millions of people have come through Vancouver airport just fine. This whole thing could have been prevented. Too bad personal responsibility went out the window with common sense.

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By: Social Critic

Social Critic — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:11:10 +0000

I enjoyed the line about the Zen master told by Gust Avrokatos, ably played by Phillip Seymour Hoffman, in “Charlie Wilson’s War”, for two reasons. I really liked Hoffman’s character and I also thought the parable a worthy one with application elsewhere. This might be one of those “elsewheres”.

In the film Gust tells tells Wilson a little parable about a Zen master. In a village, a boy got a pony, and all the villagers said, “That’s good.” The Zen master said, “We’ll see.” A couple of years later, the boy fell off the pony and broke his leg. All the villagers said, “That’s too bad.” The Zen master said, “We’ll see.” Then a war came and all the other young men went to war, but the boy couldn’t because of his leg. All the villagers said, “That’s good.” The Zen master said, “We’ll see.”

So the Vancouver Airport Authority says (I’m paraphrasing here but you get the point) ‘Not Guilty!. Blameless! Nothing to do with us! Too bad but not our fault!’.

Well, that was predictable. Would one really expect them to say anything else? Do we anticipate they would just roll over and say ‘Yeah, you got us, we did it…what’s more we want to admit it so everyone can think less of us and by the way, it would help if you could back up your armored car to our bank so we can shovel scads and scads of cash into it.’.

So they protest their innocence. Before they get in front of a judge.

And the Zen master says “We’ll see.”.

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