Comments on: The full Mountie: Inside a debate about culture change in the RCMP http://www.rcmpwatch.com/the-full-mountie-inside-a-debate-about-culture-change-in-the-rcmp/ Calling for increased accountability since 2006 Wed, 22 May 2013 18:51:06 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JohnnyG http://www.rcmpwatch.com/the-full-mountie-inside-a-debate-about-culture-change-in-the-rcmp/comment-page-1/#comment-6188 JohnnyG Wed, 15 Aug 2012 12:33:41 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=5133#comment-6188 What are people that don't make waves called? I call them Sheep. I for the reasons Chad and Kennedy have given us, this is what the upper management seeks to have in it's employees. They just want brown noser's, backstabbers and "Yes men" in the rank and file. What more proof does anyone need that this corporate term upper management like to throw around such as "openness", is just a one way street. Uppermanagement has an open door policy when it comes to hearing the dirt on people, but when it comes to idea's and opinions it is still archaic as the days when horses were used instead of cars. In the outfit far too many of the brass care more about the people above them, than those below them Atleast in the old days, and however arrogant they came across, upper-management were at least honest about who they were and weren't trying to don the sheep's clothing. The very same clothing they want the membership to wear…. What are people that don’t make waves called? I call them Sheep. I for the reasons Chad and Kennedy have given us, this is what the upper management seeks to have in it’s employees. They just want brown noser’s, backstabbers and “Yes men” in the rank and file.
What more proof does anyone need that this corporate term upper management like to throw around such as “openness”, is just a one way street. Uppermanagement has an open door policy when it comes to hearing the dirt on people, but when it comes to idea’s and opinions it is still archaic as the days when horses were used instead of cars. In the outfit far too many of the brass care more about the people above them, than those below them
Atleast in the old days, and however arrogant they came across, upper-management were at least honest about who they were and weren’t trying to don the sheep’s clothing. The very same clothing they want the membership to wear….

]]> By: Boommer http://www.rcmpwatch.com/the-full-mountie-inside-a-debate-about-culture-change-in-the-rcmp/comment-page-1/#comment-6187 Boommer Wed, 15 Aug 2012 04:22:19 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=5133#comment-6187 It’s been a while since I last viewed my opinion on this site but this article is worth making a comment on. I wish Comm. Paulson all the best in his new job and hopefully he can make the changes that he seeks. However writing a letter to a subordinate and telling him firstly “I WAS DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED TO RECEIVE YOUR CORRESPONDENCE. And then goes on to tell him “YOU ARE LIVING UNDER A ROCK” doesn’t install a lot of confidence in me that he has the ability to lead. What happened to Open, Honest and Bilateral Communication. Words written in the RCMP Mission Vision and Values statement, or are these words now meaningless buzz words, it’s so hard to keep track sometimes. Coming out and stating that you are going to making changes in an organization is wonderful for one’s public image, but for me, the biggest problem is that the same people who caused the problem (upper management) in the first place are the same members he wants to lead his teams to fix the problems they failed to deal with in the first place. If I’m wrong please tell me. I witnessed a lot during my 32 years in the force, had firsthand knowledge on a few complaints and spoke with others about their complaints. Most would be reviewed by “upper management”, and members would be told the handling of the complaint was within the guidelines of the force. It was interesting after the same unfounded complaints ended up in the hands of lawyers how many members were placed on a gage order after their lawyers stepped in. How many of the present complaints we read about in the news would have ended up in the news had a proper investigation been completed in the first place. Hold your investigating members accountable! If the commissioner of the force really wants to change the problems in the outfit, think outside the box, I’m going to suggest here that he re hire retired members who wouldn’t give upper management mouth service to review complaint files on management and then communicate their finding to the commissioner’s office. Then he might get the real picture of the problems facing members. Don’t tell your members you are going to walk the walk unless you are prepared to hold your management teams to the same standards you are telling the rank and file, too. Look at the internal complaints of your managers, over the past 10 to 15 years and you will find out why the force in is trouble. “Now can I say it”, where has Paulson been for the last 15 years, under a Bolder? It’s been a while since I last viewed my opinion on this site but this article is worth making a comment on. I wish Comm. Paulson all the best in his new job and hopefully he can make the changes that he seeks. However writing a letter to a subordinate and telling him firstly “I WAS DEEPLY DISAPPOINTED TO RECEIVE YOUR CORRESPONDENCE. And then goes on to tell him “YOU ARE LIVING UNDER A ROCK” doesn’t install a lot of confidence in me that he has the ability to lead. What happened to Open, Honest and Bilateral Communication. Words written in the RCMP Mission Vision and Values statement, or are these words now meaningless buzz words, it’s so hard to keep track sometimes. Coming out and stating that you are going to making changes in an organization is wonderful for one’s public image, but for me, the biggest problem is that the same people who caused the problem (upper management) in the first place are the same members he wants to lead his teams to fix the problems they failed to deal with in the first place. If I’m wrong please tell me. I witnessed a lot during my 32 years in the force, had firsthand knowledge on a few complaints and spoke with others about their complaints. Most would be reviewed by “upper management”, and members would be told the handling of the complaint was within the guidelines of the force. It was interesting after the same unfounded complaints ended up in the hands of lawyers how many members were placed on a gage order after their lawyers stepped in. How many of the present complaints we read about in the news would have ended up in the news had a proper investigation been completed in the first place. Hold your investigating members accountable! If the commissioner of the force really wants to change the problems in the outfit, think outside the box, I’m going to suggest here that he re hire retired members who wouldn’t give upper management mouth service to review complaint files on management and then communicate their finding to the commissioner’s office. Then he might get the real picture of the problems facing members. Don’t tell your members you are going to walk the walk unless you are prepared to hold your management teams to the same standards you are telling the rank and file, too. Look at the internal complaints of your managers, over the past 10 to 15 years and you will find out why the force in is trouble. “Now can I say it”, where has Paulson been for the last 15 years, under a Bolder?

]]> By: sickntired http://www.rcmpwatch.com/the-full-mountie-inside-a-debate-about-culture-change-in-the-rcmp/comment-page-1/#comment-6186 sickntired Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:11:19 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=5133#comment-6186 Kudos to Tim Chad and Peter Kennedy for speaking out. Their concerns are valid and they are certainly not the only ones who have such concerns. Both Chad and Kennedy will undoubtedly suffer negative consequences for their courage. Chad has already been ordered not to speak to the media. Wave makers are not tolerated and examples will be made of them both lest other members start having ideas above their station. Bob Paulson's unfortunate response to Chad proves once again that nothing will change on his watch. These are not the words of a leader who values the opinions of his subordinates. They are not the words of someone who has carefully read Chad's message and given his concerns fair and sober consideration. They are not the words of a leader at all. They ARE the words of a boss who will brook no argument and no perceived challenge to his authority no matter how reasoned or well-intended. Same same old. Bob Paulson has done us all a disservice. Kudos to Tim Chad and Peter Kennedy for speaking out. Their concerns are valid and they are certainly not the only ones who have such concerns. Both Chad and Kennedy will undoubtedly suffer negative consequences for their courage. Chad has already been ordered not to speak to the media. Wave makers are not tolerated and examples will be made of them both lest other members start having ideas above their station.

Bob Paulson’s unfortunate response to Chad proves once again that nothing will change on his watch. These are not the words of a leader who values the opinions of his subordinates. They are not the words of someone who has carefully read Chad’s message and given his concerns fair and sober consideration. They are not the words of a leader at all. They ARE the words of a boss who will brook no argument and no perceived challenge to his authority no matter how reasoned or well-intended.

Same same old. Bob Paulson has done us all a disservice.

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