Ottawa (Canadian Press) – Declaring it time for “historic change,” Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day has appointed a five-member panel to oversee reform of the embattled RCMP.
The group, led by former Alcan executive David McAusland, will ensure the Mounties follow and implement key recommendations of a recent task force report that called for more autonomy for the RCMP. The panel also includes a former RCMP commissioner, a justice professor, and a specialist in corporate governance.
Day says the arm’s-length panel will make sure the necessary changes are implemented with “independence and transparency.”
It will also ensure a co-ordinated approach to reforms.
“Now we’re able to begin, really start to get to the business of rolling up the sleeves and showing that everybody’s working together.”
The task force report recommended a stand-alone RCMP with supervised control over hiring and spending decisions.
The report proposed a sweeping package of changes to the structure and oversight of the beleaguered national police force.
The report said the Mounties were mired in bureaucracy and must have more authority to manage their own staff and finances.
McAusland, a lawyer, executive and corporate director, said he wants to see a better-run police force.
“My experience is that regardless of the type of organization you’re dealing with . . . excellence in management and excellence in leadership is driven by organizational excellence,” he said.
The other panel members:
-Jean-Claude Bouchard, a career civil servant who most recently was president of the Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency.
-Beverley Busson, a veteran Mountie who briefly served as commissioner of the force from December 2006 to July 2007.
-Jocelyne Cote-O’Hara, president of The Cora Group, a Toronto-based management consulting firm.
-Kevin McAlpine, former chief of police in Ontario’s Durham region, now a professor at the school of justice at Durham College.
The group is to submit its first report to Day by September.
The Mounties welcomed the creation of the panel.
William Elliott, the civilian appointed as RCMP commissioner last summer, said the force is committed to change.
“I have made it abundantly clear that the status quo is not an option,” he said.
Reading some of the reports in here it seems evident that the reason some of the RCMP members are put out and or transfered is to cause destruction in the members lives.
The system dates back to the beginning of time.
When someone wasn`t approved of they were put out of the community and the reason was so they would die. Scape Goat comes to mind and how they handled the Lord`s case as well. He also was crusified outside of the city of Jeruselm…
When you are cast out no one will have anything to do with you and therefore you will not be able to survive.
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“Your comment: “Why don’t I see any women playing on the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Edmonton Eskimos, or the Vancouver Canucks? I mean after all fighting crime and maintaining order is far more important than a football or hockey game isn’t it, yet we don’t see any women of those teams.” is nonsensical, and an example of your lineal thinking.”
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Please don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to insult you. I am just pointing out a fact about yourself. My example of an all male system structure is perfectly valid and is only nonsensical and lineal to you because your liberal thinking is incapable of properly analyzing the facts.
I have another parallel for you of an another all male system structure, it’s the firemen. They only took women after much resistance and the integration has not gone well at all.
BTW, I worked many years in an industry that to this day has no women maintaining employment and it’s a legal job. The women are welcome to work at it but are too incapable.
Firemen and police have large areas of duty women are not suited for, that is a biological and genetic fact. Yes those jobs have roles for a female worker but it doesn’t take restructuring to make the vast amount and the majority of workers put into a untenable situation.
But that is the liberal machine hard at work, putting square pegs into round holes.
But where you really exposed your mistakes was by not replying to my quesry about Stockwell Day’s panel. You seemed so confident that you were so right and I was so wrong but you have yet to tell us why you know so much about my issue with Day.
TELLS ME AGAIN –Tell me about YOUR dealings with Stockwell. Tell me about how YOU have intimate knowledge about his office. Tell me what you base your facts on about how Stockwell operates othe than what you take in from the skewed media.
I’ll point it out again, saying I have lineal thinking won’t answer the questions.
The main difference between me and you GetReal is that I don’t get involved in things I know nothing about. I am dealing with Day’s office and I am dealing with the RCMP on nearly a daily basis.
Calvin’s bullets could have easily been summed up this way “Liberalism is destroying the very fabric of our nation”.
Simple, ask the guys who are firefighters, ask the guys who are police. A Stockwell Day appointed panel won’t fix a fundemental flaw in out country.
“Some law making authority has to pass laws to fix problems. That is what happens in a democracy. In ours, that means a political party introduces legislation and the process begins”.
Your line of thinking goes along with the philosophy the laws should be changed so that the RCMP can hire pedophiles to work as school liason officers.
You see how riduclous that is, but we have the same thing going on when people demand that laws be changed and structures with proven psychologies be changed just to suit the egos and special interests of a very small group of women ….(or men?).
When that women firefighter doesn’t have the male strength or stamina to carry the victim out of a burning building who suffers?
When that female cop can’t do a simple take down of an
uncooperative male because she doesn’t have male strength or stamina but instead uses a taser and kills him who suffers?
The answer to both those question is “we all do”. And don’t insult everyones intelligence here about male and women being both capable for a job, why do you think they separate men and women at Ironman, check the finishing times, the only thing men and women have in common there are weakest losers.
I’ll say it again I am not a (C)conservative, but liberalism is destroying the RCMP and our country. You don’t have to be a liberal or conservative to form a panel in order to put a label on a poison bottle.
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I wonder if the RCMP is in bad of shape as they are portrayed to be in, or if we are all victims of media hype? Sure there are problems that absolutely must be addressed, but is the RCMP much different than any other large organization?
No matter who you put on this reform panel, and no matter what changes they make, you still have 20,000 employees and some of those people are going to get promotions that they shouldn’t and treat those under them poorly. You will still have personality conflicts and one party will claim they are being harassed. You will still have members on the street making split second decisions that will be scrutinized and criticized. You will still have the idiots at the Civil Liberties Association playing armchair quarterback and a media who will print their asinine comments.
With the current media frenzy, singular events are painted in a negative light and are held up as signs of systemic failure and corruption.
I, for one, am getting sick of hearing about it.
RCMP bashing is the new national pastime but whose picture do they still put on postcards they sell to tourists??
So let’s get to the REAL issue….why aren’t any women playing on the Canucks? I demand a public inquiry!
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Thank you for your comments. It was not my intent to suggest that the government simply find RCMP members who were harassed or suffered discrimination to be on the panel. My intent was to enlist people to be on the panel who have empathy for the many RCMP members who have been wronged and have the forcefulness to hold INDIVIDUALS accountable in the future. I question why a panel is even required at this stage of the situation with all the policies, directives, and manuals. If individual RCMP members are taking the system for a ride then end it. If individual RCMP member’s causes are just then support them. True leaders know the difference and act. Everybody wants to be a supervisor but very few want to supervise. You know and I know that a panel will never do that. The panel is just another buffer.
The public will never have sympathy or compassion for an organization that crushes members and then penalizes them for not being able to stand up under the weight.
Calvin Lawrence
CGL Consulting
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I agree with Calvin that the RCMP buries and denies harassment issues. The categorization of the behavior is commonly referred to as a “personality conflict”. This is their cop out.
I also agree with Fraser’s assessment of liberalism in the force. Anyone who disagree’s with this statement should take a look at the gay wedding last summer and the ad RCMP recruiters placed in a gay magazine next to a gay porno model ad sporting a naked men holding holding his penis in his hand. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2007/10/01/rcmp-recruit.html
I don’t necessarily mean the liberal political party when I agree with Fraser, but the ideology. The Mulroney days were as bad as any for this kind of thinking.
Scaling down some of the liberalism is some of what the Brown report is trying to address in respect to recruitment. For too long the RCMP hiring polices have reflected the desire of interest groups and lobbyists, rather than pumping out good police.
Yeah, the system can’t go back to what it was 40 years ago, but my god things have gone way too far!
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Yes, people like to play the harassment card. However, there is a psychological forensic pattern to workplace bullying and mobbing that investigating requires extensive background knowledge of what is being dealt with. The only people that will truly understand and have any empathy for those afflicted are those who have been victimized by such tactics and those of an academic qualification. The problem is your average psychologist isn’t even qualified to fully investigate mobbing, and there are only a handful of true experts in Canada and Dr. Kenneth Westhues of the University of Waterloo is the guy to talk to.
Why is this so difficult to investigate? The biggest reasons are because the attacks are subtle and difficult to prove and involve groups of people such as an old boys club that are in cahoots, and tell the same socially constructed harmonized story. Who are they going to believe a vicious gang that has strength in numbers or one person. This form of behavior thrives on ignorant people who victim blame by labeling the target as someone who is difficult to get along with or as deserving of group attempt. Often times this is just the opposite. More often than not, high performers are picked because they are making the bullies look incompetent. It is easier to drag someone down than pull yourself up to their level.
Workplace harassment follows 5 stages. This is how the game is played:
As was researched and discovered by the Late Dr. Heinz Leymann,(The Mobbing Encyclopedia), there is a five stage process that occurs when Mobbing begins. Once in full swing this process is very difficult, if not impossible, to stop.
Stage 1
Begins with an unresolved conflict or a critical incident. Usually the target is an above average employee with a vulnerability that can be exploited. This often stems from jealousy, the need to scapegoat or to deflect blame, or simply because it builds social cohesion in divisive and dysfunctional groups. This stage is very early in the mobbing process, and may not go any further in developing to mobbing.
Stage 2
Here is where the assaults begin to take place. There are different tactics that are utilized and this is when the process begins to pick up steam. Here a ring leader and allies will not only add fuel to the fire, but sabotage any resolution of the conflict to ensue that the lynching will run its course. They will counter and dismiss all attempts at resolving the conflict and when the outrage seems to be quieting will rejuvenate the topic by taking it into another direction.
Here one can find a list of subtle tactics. http://www.bullyonline.org/workbully/amibeing.htm
Stage 3
This is the stage where management begins to play a role. This is the first step in the elimination process. Managers often misinterpret the situation, and blame falls onto the victim. Supervisors simply don’t want to believe that their employees are capable of this kind of behavior. With the targets now discredited and stigmatized any defense they make is disregarded. With “reality” now distorted, their individual word will not be taken over a group’s. There truly is strength in numbers.
Stage 4
This is where the process meets a critical stage where the target is labeled mentally ill or antisocial. By this time the target has become frustrated, withdrawn and unhappy while coworkers maliciously contort this into mental illness. The target is highly suspicious of others, which is well founded, and targets are further discredited by being labeled paranoid. Counciling at this point is mostly ineffective, as it does little to relieve the toxicity of the work environment. Unfortunately, many psychologists are ignorant or untrained in mobbing and its devastating effects and will often attribute this to permanent mental conditions and personality flaws that were “always there”. Nobody sees that this is a “normal reaction to an abnormal situation”.
If the target begins to fight back, they are labeled the aggressors. When the target is excluded, withdrawn and seeks solace, they are the ones who are introverted. The mob will put the target in the compromised position, and will attack them for being there. As in any abusive situation, victim blaming is always the aggressors way of abdicating responsibility.
Stage 5
This is expulsion process. By this time the target is mentally and physically drained, and has difficulty mustering the resources to provide an adequate defense. Often times there is little due process in the removal of a target and they have little chance of succeeding. Management being human as well will take the course of least resistance, they are more concerned about making the problem go away than getting to the root of the problem- bully/mob behaviour. It is easier to remove one target than it is to deal with a gang of bullies.
After the expulsion, the target is emotionally devastated and can often show signs of Post-Traumatic stress disorder. With their professional reputation destroyed, nobody else wants to hire them. Their lives are all but ruined…
Yes, Gus is correct there are some horrible things that members have done to each other. Sadly they get swept under the rug and supervisors don’t understand what they are dealing with or at worst sweep it under the rug when they uncover it.
http://www.arts.uwaterloo.ca/~kwesthue/mobbing.htm
http://www.leymann.se/English/frame.html
http://www.mobbing.ca
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Calvin,
I know that the problems and hardships you were put through were awful at best and criminal at worst, but Simon is right about having a panel of disillusioned members. There are some terrible things that RCMP members have done to each other, however claiming harassment has become one of the fail safe ways for a poor performer to make excuses for why they do not reach the bar set by the rest. the same poor performers that claim harassment are often the same members that make the news for doing something unprofessional , criminal or what have you.
I have all the respect for Calvin, and consider myself one of the lucky ones who have benefited from his teaching, and I know Calvin has a heart for defending the disadvantaged RCMP members because of circumstances he was put through, unfortunately many people have grabbed a hold of the “I have been harassed bandwangon” and are taking it for a ride.
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God Rocks, We could have a reporter on the panel… We all like to read the reports that reporters publish (Scandal this and scandal that) but if we really want to look at a system with no accountability the media is at the top of the list!
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Everybody has a right to their opinion. The fact that I disagree with yours BF, is my opinion. If I do not want a panel of whiners, that is my opinion, if I want a panel of Corporate CEO’s that is my opinion. If i take issue with your liberalism stance, that is my opinion.
If I take issue with the idea that the RCMP budget is more now than 10 years ago, facts from stats Canada would support that either way.
Your comment: “Why don’t I see any women playing on the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Edmonton Eskimos, or the Vancouver Canucks? I mean after all fighting crime and maintaining order is far more important than a football or hockey game isn’t it, yet we don’t see any women of those teams.” is nonsensical, and an example of your lineal thinking.
Why do we need a political party to fix the RCMP? Some law making authority has to pass laws to fix problems. That is what happens in a democracy. In ours, that means a political party introduces legislation and the process begins.
I still have not heard who you want on the sword wielding arm of change.
“Looking at what made the RCMP work then and why it isn’t working now is not magic.” No its not magic, however you now operate under what could best be described as a radically altered and substantially more complicated system from 20 or more years ago. Officers a long way back were not allowed to get married before 5 years of service, then down to 2, and now are allowed to enroll when married. Did this have an effect on the quality of officers? Same sex, different sexes, conversions, human rights issues, government directives for hiring ‘visible minorities’ for better or worse are among the myriad of issues that you now what you have to work with. Just on the human resource front.
In whom do we invest the authority to do this with a wave of the wand? Any suggestions on that BF? would that not take government decree?
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Where are YOU Code Talker you have disappeared ………
I also agree with Cst BentonFraser on his views of how the Goverment of the day can have a drastic effect on how the organization is managed . I have no desire to turn this debate into a political forum , however there was a distinct lack of funding required to upgrade the organization.
YES it time to go back to the things that worked , simply things like keeping smiles on your employee’s faces. Pretty basic a happy member is a productive member. No system is perfect , but lets do the best we can with what we have
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I would think appointing a reporter on the panel would be a good thing since the RCMP are hiring them anyways, maybe someone from the CBC Fifth Estate and of course he would be sworn to secrecy as the evidence would be presented lop sided on one side.
Maybe someone from some civilian group who’s trying to look after the rights of people what about a good pastor who’s heart is for the well faire of others and is well taught in the code of conduct, with discernment, someone who knows what good characters look like today. Why would we separate state from church again? So state can go on the way they have unchecked… it’s time to stop the tax breaks hanging over the churches and put them to good use. What the use of having them in churches teaching when the ones doing the stealing, killing and destroying are in systems unchecked.
That would be to harsh, the critics for good reform might say, but it’s not.
Just an opinion, that’s all.
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“Putting together panels, committees, think tanks, etc. is equivalent to putting a band aide on a scab. This process while well meaning will take a great deal of time and does not hold individuals RCMP members accountable for their conscious actions, or non-actions in the case of supervisors. Delay is the worst form of denial!”
I have to agree with you there. The problem with that course of action is: when you have bad management your system is doomed to fail because you cannot have a panel, committee or think tank for every single one of the myriad of bad management decisions pouring out of that management.
When a system gets bogged down in bad management decisions you simply can’t keep up with correcting that course.
But I do have to disagree with you here;
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•One of the many female RCMP members who allegedly were assaulted and/or harassed by other members.
•The French or English Canadian RCMP member who allegedly suffered discrimination because of culture.
•The Non-White or White RCMP member who allegedly suffered discrimination because of Race.
•The RCMP members who are in same sex relationships and have allegedly suffered discrimination because of their sexual orientation.
•The RCMP Member who has allegedly been the victim of discrimination because of their religious beliefs.
•Any RCMP member who has suffered harassment and discrimination for any reason.
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Fixing the RCMP isn’t rocket science, it’s obvious.
How many of those above bullets was connected to having a Liberal government at the time?
How many of the above issues became manifest through the liberal agenda?
Why don’t I see any women playing on the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Edmonton Eskimos, or the Vancouver Canucks? I mean after all fighting crime and maintaining order is far more important than a football or hockey game isn’t it, yet we don’t see any women of those teams.
What had made the RCMP the respected force they had been in their early days. What corrupted that reputation?
Is that so much rocket science??
Looking at what made the RCMP work then and why it isn’t working now is not magic. I smell liberalism all over the reason why we can’t look at the ABC’s of RCMP policing.
I am not making a political statement either, just because I call a spade a spade it doen’t mean I am a (C)conservative.
It doesn’t take a political party to understand why a women can’t play on the Edmonton Eskimos. The weird part is why do we need a political party to fix the RCMP?
Look at what happened to our Canadian Armed Forces under the Liberals. Are the RCMP any different?
It may not come down to the same issues but there are huge number and funding similarities.
And I’ll warn anyone right now, don’t label me as a Conservative just because I see a Liberal problem.
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I thank you for your comments. I can assure you that there are real incidents that have happened to real RCMP members and this is not delusional behavior.
Example: “THIS MAGAZINE Nov/2004-2005” details the shooting death of a Female RCMP officer by a Male RCMP officer. There is no doubt of abuse here. There are many documented, provable, accurate, accounts of abuse of RCMP Members by RCMP Members.
The RCMP has used the defense mechanisms of minimization, denial, delusion, repression, suppression, and dissociation to deal with the kind of statements that I previously made. It is now time for blaming the RCMP member for exposing their abuse and the abuse of others to stop if real change is to be made.
Will a panel attack this problem in a timely and accurate manner and expose abuse by RCMP members who are abusing the system, or will RCMP members with provable complaints of abuse be described as delusional?
Silence is consent. Suffering is optional!
Calvin Lawrence
CGL Consulting
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I’m not sure Calvin’s idea of staffing a reform panel with disillusioned members who feel slighted in some way would be the best course of action. I would prefer someone with experience with initiating organizational change at the senior management level. I don’t care where that experience comes from, civilian or not. A competent person will achieve results regardless of the situation.
As for members sitting at home on stress leave; I would not be too quick to judge them or support them. Sure some may have legitimate medical / mental issues. But how many are misusing the system to get a free vacation, or to get revenge against a supervisor they didn’t like, or because *they* can’t get along with co-workders, or they feel that they have a right to a stress and conflict free environment?
Sometimes there are working conditions that are just so horrible that they are unhealthy. And sometimes work isn’t ideal but you have to suck it up and go anyway. Some of these long term absence people don’t have an appreciation as to where that line is.
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There have been a number of opinions for and against the civilian panel regarding the fixing of the RCMP. There have also been discussions and opinions regarding who should be part of the panel.
Putting together panels, committees, think tanks, etc. is equivalent to putting a band aide on a scab. This process while well meaning will take a great deal of time and does not hold individuals RCMP members accountable for their conscious actions, or non-actions in the case of supervisors. Delay is the worst form of denial!
RCMP members should be allowed to testify under oath of abuses and give suggestions to a parliamentary committee who have the power to implement changes. Don’t pass the suggestions on. Put the sign up “The Bock Stops Here”.
I would disagree that civilians on the panel is the best process to follow.
Who should be on the panel?
•One of the many female RCMP members who allegedly were assaulted and/or harassed by other members.
•The French or English Canadian RCMP member who allegedly suffered discrimination because of culture.
•The Non-White or White RCMP member who allegedly suffered discrimination because of Race.
•The RCMP members who are in same sex relationships and have allegedly suffered discrimination because of their sexual orientation.
•The RCMP Member who has allegedly been the victim of discrimination because of their religious beliefs.
•Any RCMP member who has suffered harassment and discrimination for any reason.
You can call any RCMP member who is sitting at home (sometimes for years) on sick leave due to stress because of the actions of other RCMP members. Don’t blame the RCMP member. He or she was made sick (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, Adjustment Disorder or Major Depression) by the actions of other RCMP members.
You can call on RCMP members who are sent home by staffing and told they would receive a call for a position and the call never comes because they have fallen in disfavor with RCMP management. These situations should be addressed at once due to the critical shortage of RCMP members.
Most people selected to be on the panels and committees already know about what I am posting.
If alleged abuse is allowed to exist in the RCMP; that abuse will eventually may its way to the citizens on the street.
Calvin Lawrence
CGL Consulting
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Your welcome to your opinion GetReal. The sad thing which I keep seeing is that people like you don’t feel “Got Rocks”, “Speaking_my_mind” or “Just Because” or a wide variety of people should also have the right to their opinion and to try and change things.
It’s a one-way street for you, I think you don’t even realize that about yourself.
You keep repeating the same false statments “Your lineal thinking leads one to believe that there is no suitable ending to the story.”
That is patently false. I said there was one person on
that panel others here agree should not be on it. You turn that one statement into a platform for your incessant berating, others see that here too.
Tell me about YOUR dealings with Stockwell. Tell me about how YOU have intimate knowledge about his office. Tell me what you base your facts on about how Stockwell operates othe than what you take in from the skewed media.
As it stands, many people don’t like the panel in its present configuration.
BTW, I too don’t have much sympathy for those who resist arrest or endanger officers and the publics lives while freaking out on meth or being tasered after a car chase.
BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT’S AT ISSUE HERE. It’s tasering people who have their hands up, it’s tasering people while they sit in their cars stopped and cooperative, it’s tasering handicapped people in police lockups with handcuffs on.
All the above have happened and alot more deaths taboot without one firing or charge made against a police officer.
This isn’t some banana republic, (though it’s sure starting to look a that way) and the code talkers in Ottawa are too stupid to realize that,they think they are getting away with this crap, but they won’t for long.
Take a look at Mexico where this kind of thing has been going on for decades. I know what happens to the corrupt ones, it won’t be long before it starts happening here because whether they like to believe it or not there are officers very close to them that don’t like it as well and can get to them just as easy.
To have sheep in the world there must also be wolves, on both sides of the fence. Figure that one out code talker.
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Folks, does it really matter who spit shines their boots, polishes their badges and what arsenal they have on their police belt when it’s the heart and the head that seems to be the trigure here.
Police officers and the general public are being abused by an internal justice and political system and there are real lives being lost here on both sides of this while no body in management thinks this is very serious.
Has anyone thought about studdying why police officers are being retired after ignoring these issues for so long and why there are very few answers as time creaps on.
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How silly of me to wait and see with the ‘panel’ and how they will make out.
“I can only speak for myself and my experiences. It is really too bad at this juncture Stockwell Day is initiating the panel. Surely something could have been accomplished by having this investigation but with a former RCMP member on the board it simply telegraphs what the outcome will be.”
No between the lines communique there BF. I do not feel the need to stick up for the panel, however, to dismiss them out of hand is self serving. Perhaps you could enlighten us with the names of persons you would like to see on such a panel. I am sure you have communicated with Stock on it.
I guess I must be an optimist to think that there may be some progress. Your lineal thinking leads one to believe that there is no suitable ending to the story.
I for one do not grow faint at the idea that persons die in custody, or die during scuffles. Stuff happens, and you have inquiries, coroners, CPC, to try and ensure such things do not re-occur. But guess what? They will, they do and they will continue to do so as long as humans are involved. The bull has horns.
I think you have been taking lessons from tomax7.
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Yeah code talker, what is your regimental #?
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Code talker, although I’ve had a few disagreements with mr. Fraser, I don’t think anyone here believes that he was trying to fraudulently portray himself as a police officer. Benton Fraser is a TV character, a modern day version of Dudley Do right, if you will.
Do you really talk in codes? Codetalking location and number please…
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Thanks to the RCMP watch for allowing dialogue and freedom of speech . Code Talker should pay heed and just remember this is not an RCMP service court with an antiquated RCMP Act being used against the members. That is the problem with the RCMP we have two few men , that are afraid of offering constructive criticism , especially towards upper management. So Code Talk what’s you rank and Detachment ?
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code talker: Everyone is allowed to their opinion, including yourself. The identities of those posting are protected to allow free speech. You call yourself code talker, he/she chose CstBentonFraser. They are both pseudonyms. There is no difference.
You can chose to believe everything, part of, or nothing that he/she posts. You are also free to disagree and argue your points. All we ask is that you do so with some civility. Personal attacks are not tolerated well.
Neither IP’s or email addresses will be revealed unless we are faced with a court order, and that’s not about to happen anytime soon.
Perhaps the room moderator or ficilitator of this forum might pass on the IP of a bloger impersoanating an officer of the Crown namely a > CstBentonFraser — 15 random letters from the English alphabet.
Your comments, mam or sir, as the case maybe ,do not reflect all members of the force.
….your detatchment location and number once again Fraser?
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I don’t know if Cst Benton Fraser is an RCMP officer but I do know the rest here, look at how they went after his comments, like a bunch of Piranhas, bite, bite, bite.
I don’t see the problem if someone has a case and wants to be heard, if not by the proper departments then where?
If they understood this basic need to be heard instead of shutting people down and typically labeling people with all kinds of names like whistle blower when all that person wants to do is their job then it would be over and done with. It’s the process that stinks not the people involved,
I wonder if the info is not right then why are there so many people upset, just ignore it and if it’s not true it will go away and if it is then swallow.
By the way no man can do what is happening to this national police force only a head judge can, so you are not fighting against people but against some with power here who is tired of seeing people suffer at your hands, so change and all will go and be well again.
Good luck Cst B. Fraser
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Sounds like you might be addressing “CstBentonFraser”.
If “CstBentonFraser” was somehow in real life a real “RCMP” officer and a real “Constable Benton Fraser” then that question might be relevant but as it
stands “CstBentonFraser” is just that –CstBentonFraser — 15 random letters from the English alphabet.
The other point is, why would you be so curious to ask that question. Why couldn’t a fictional RCMP constable come here and comment without a bunch of scrutiny and questions about name, rank and serial number?
Mmm…?
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Would constable Fraser please identify the detachment he serves with?
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“Except for Kevin, I think they are all corrupt. Fraser says so and I believe him. ”
That’s stooping pretty low, putting words in my mouth. Show me where I said that and quote me. What do you or your friends have that’s so much at stake. After all, making accustations of defamation is pretty serious.
I openly say I have a stake and don’t hide the fact or make up words to put in other people’s mouths.
You on the othe hand feel a real need to stick up for this lopsided panel to the point that you are sticking your neck out. I’d be careful if I were you.
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Well, Stockwell, your whole panel is done before it starts. without Benton on side I do not see how it can succeed. Except for Kevin, I think they are all corrupt. Fraser says so and I believe him. And I thought Victor Malarek was cool….
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lol…thanks RW!
Gus…tsk tsk tsk.
I try my best to keep the dialogue on a civilized and respectful level, I could see name calling was just around the corner, as were insults. It went along with the whole point of view.
“Ah so the true view spews forth.”
I have no problem with that.
“It is quite obvious that there is a major axe to grind Fraser.”
No problem with that either. Unless of course there is innuendo there that we should keep our views all bottled up and no one has a right to their own opinions.
“You have had no luck in getting the myriad of government departments to take up your cause.”
Nope, not true. Some departments work and we work together, and some are like a well oiled machine, and it’s truly a wonderful thing seeing how western governments manage when given the right resources and proper management. It’s why I would never move to the Middle East or Asia or Africa. We actually have a system, though faltering is still better than all the theocracies combined.
“Perhaps you should come to the realization that you are not in the right.”
Not in the right about what? You don’t even know the case, you know nothing about my situation. Not in the right? Yikes!
“To take a wholesale view that the entire system, the people, and its components are corrupt is the sign of a distressed mind. Stockwell Day could appoint anyone, and to you they would be corrupt.”
LOL…where did you get that idea…lol
“Just because there is no apology does not mean there is no contrition. ”
Ok, sure, whatever you say.
“I guess we, the great unwashed, will have to ignore the success stories, the noble deeds, and the heartfelt efforts made by those you denigrate so easily.”
I don’t know whose post you’re reading but I thought you were talking to me. I give credit where credit is due.
“I for one, not being paranoid, would like to see the results before I pass judgment.”
There are many many more people that just myself who are fully aware of a modus operandi. Mass paranoia? That would be a first. Please point to or site the medical literature where populations suffer from mass paranoia.
“If your cause is at all worth pursuing, the media in its feverish frenzy would love to hear from you.”
Nahhh…. You should read this file “CRTC complaint filed for reporting on Laibar Singh”
The “media” is highly overrated.
Look at this case –>”This complaint has been filed against CBC TV, CBC Radio, CKNW, CTV, and Global TV on the grounds that, despite numerous clarifications including by legal experts, broadcasters failed to provide accurate, comprehensive, fair, full, and unbiased coverage “–.
Put my case, hope, life, future and faith in the media? Not me, not this guy.
“As for ‘how bad it’s going to get’, I for one am prepared, how about you?”
I am the one who said — I know what the cost will be and won’t be caught off guard — not you.
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ah censored again, I guess I went too far. Sarcasm just doesn’t seem to be as appreciated as it once was. Is it insulting to point out a persons blatant and unbalanced paranoia?
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“the Gus’s and his ilk” give GetReal the thumbs up. [Edited to remove insults directed at another commentator.]
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Ah so the true view spews forth. It is quite obvious that there is a major axe to grind Fraser. You have had no luck in getting the myriad of government departments to take up your cause. Perhaps you should come to the realization that you are not in the right. To take a wholesale view that the entire system, the people, and its components are corrupt is the sign of a distressed mind. Stockwell Day could appoint anyone, and to you they would be corrupt.
The system is not without faults, mistakes and yes, even tragedies. To insinuate that it all was done deliberately is patently naive. Just because there is no apology does not mean there is no contrition.
I guess we, the great unwashed, will have to ignore the success stories, the noble deeds, and the heartfelt efforts made by those you denigrate so easily. We will see if this panel makes a difference. I for one, not being paranoid, would like to see the results before I pass judgment.
If your cause is at all worth pursuing, the media in its feverish frenzy would love to hear from you. Or are they too part of the conspiracy?
As for ‘how bad it’s going to get’, I for one am prepared, how about you?
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Thanks Passion for taking the time, effort and interest to underline my point.
It took many years and many long hours to get to the point where I was able to present my case to the RCMP. And yes, the politicians were dogged in their determination to spin the situation to their friends liking.
Ordinarily, if this had been someone else’s case, the whole fiasco would have been easily dismissed. The deaths and the accidents would have slowly faded into history, but since this is my case and since they have ticked me off and since I am not going away I am going to hold everyone of them to account.
“So tell me if we can’t trust our own appointed leaders and over seers to keep their own departments running honestly and in check, where do you think are we heading as a Nation?”
We are heading in exactly the direction we are going, police lock-ups full of unexplained deaths with bodies piling up, police cruisers wiping out whole families in accidents without so much as an apology, businesses operating with complete impunity not just from the law but also from all ethical and moral obligations, whole industries failing to meet even basic third world levels of accountability. That’s just for starters.
Some of what I have mentioned there just doesn’t even seem plausible, does it. The land of Terry Fox, Ann Murray/Snowbird and Nelly Furtado, but yeah. We have got a major serious problem here with accountability from the RCMP brass. But not brass anymore just a corroded and tarnished lump of disintegrating unrecognizable metal.
Canada’s past heroes, and to a lesser extent today’s stars, took advantage of the old Canadian built system of things that was actually functioning at an acceptable level. Now though, where do they live once they have made it?
If you read the stats and crunch the numbers Canada is in deep trouble, from a developing country point of view. The people who come here to this website and knock us for commenting on our tragic state of affairs in the RCMP and in Ottawa are just whistling past the graveyard.
Pretty soon it will be one of their parents, brother or sister who, on vacation gets locked up in a foreign jail while Ottawa stands by and does nothing. Pretty soon it will be one of their brothers or sisters who gets squashed by an inexperienced and inadequately trained police officer.They can come here and ridicule all they want, but it won’t change the facts, Canada is losing business, jobs, productivity, and whole industries as the direct and proven result of wide and wholesale corruption amongst our politicians and police boards.
Canadians are in record breaking personal debt. New money from a spike in oil, gas and commodity prices are masking how bad it’s going to get.
I don’t mind the sheep coming here and bleating their nonsense, sounds of a barnyard play the fitting
accompaniment when you are taking out the sh**, at the same time I certainly have to agree with you, not many people want to face the truth what’s happening to their country.
“Some if not all of these created Ministers departments really operate kind of like in the office of a lawyer”
And therein lies their ability to further destroy Canadian lives and our economy. Collusion with government hired lawyers , lawyers who know they are tapping into infinite amounts of taxpayer money and advise them on what course to take.
As the departments or ministries get confronted with lawsuits and complaints resulting from the bad advise given from the lawyers the whole system bogs down even more as the lawyers reap the benefits.
I am not going to be the grease for that, the Gus’s and his ilk can keep volunteering for that job it’s what they are more than well suited for.
The other thing Passion is, there is no reward for them. There is no free ride, everyone pays. At least I know what the cost will be and won’t be caught off guard, like so many of them will be.
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Passion, sorry to disappoint but Benton Fraser is a character off a TV show, and it is obvious from the posts that “CstBentonFraser” is not actually a police officer, but rather someone who feels the RCMP did not do the job that he expected of them. I would also hazard to guess that you also are not the “fellow officer” that you claim to be…
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I think this issue should be dropped because it’s not edifying and will only bring attention to the negative something no one wants right now.
What we need here is a real solution to this mess.
Why is this site up anyways, there must be a positive?
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Wow! lots of stuff in here.
Congrats Cst Fraser for your stand and for your views.
It really sounds like things are still not right?
So why all the crap when it comes to police anyways?
What happen to the good cop doing a good job and making things right again. Has this gone out the political window?
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Cst Benton Fraser,
It’s quite refreshing and also disappointing to see a fellow constable finally speaking out here about an issue and having to defend what he knows which indicates that maybe the norm here is to attempt to make us believe there’s really nothing wrong at all just bad reporting. While comments seem to be for the most part welcomed here there is some opposition by way of attitudes and ridicule it seems in an attempt to discredit anyone’s views of the system as we may personally know it.
Hang in there Cst Benton Fraser and thanks for being open.
In our school system there’s much talk on why we shouldn’t tolerate male/female bullies but later when they grow up we don’t mind taking them into gangs, using them as hockey players, swearing them in as police officers and allowing them to advance in high places of authority like the former Commissioner of the RCMP and the former Prime Minister of Canada did, unchecked do we?
Are we now to except and believe that individuals in positions of trust have the God given right to subsidize their income with any means they can stumble upon even excepting cash payments from drug dealers and arms dealers in brown paper bags and silently letting things happen?
When faced with a broken system the senses today is that we should give them more money, power and slack. But if the people have become unimportant and have lost their say in the decision making of this nation and instead have become just pawns and forced financial supporters of badly run departments, where leaders when caught deny any involvements continue to complain in the sight of all men/woman and children that it’s really about the lack of power and not about honesty. So tell me if we can’t trust our own appointed leaders and over seers to keep their own departments running honestly and in check, where do you think are we heading as a Nation?
About the Minister of (public) Safety and Security; it’s just a name, he’s really the Minister of (police) Safety and Security and his job in Ottawa is to come to the aid of police forces and to make those police forces look good no matter what they do, while diverting any (public) cry for accountability.
This week in Montreal, Minister Stockwell Day held a press conference to announce that Montreal was going to get millions of dollars to fight street gangs, this is after about 12 police cruisers were torched and burn’t in Quebec as a protest the report said against police officers handling of certain cases. Because this was not against the public per say but a message sent to a few police forces the Minister acted swiftly.
I’m writing this because I believe they deliberately lead the (public) astray into thinking they are being represented well in Ottawa, while leading them away from knowing the truth. Strangely I think they believe that the middle and lower class people are really uneducated and really stupid in their perceptions as they further hamper any attempt of seeing for themselves clearly how their taxes are being spent and what really goes on behind close doors. Not only do they think the people are stupid but siding with the bad systems they also pass out the lower rank police officers as horribly misguided and stupid as well, bulling, attacking, disciplining, rejecting and dividing them into individuals with no real credibility.
And if that isn’t enough and it doesn’t work they may even transfer them to no man land in an attempt to keep them quiet while keeping them away from the upper class members until they can be trusted or they become part of their system of doing things, one of their own.
But this attitude has ruined many people in and out of police work and this police force final report from the government now on file is that the RCMP are seriously broken. The Minister of Public Safety and Security if he wants to be know that way has shown his real interest in diplomats and not towards the public spending an enormous amount of time and resources to keep this from being looked at in a proper chronological honorable way and has instead chosen now a hand pick panel of men/woman with no representation from the rank and file to do what sabotage further the chances of real reform in an attempt to keep the truth hidden again and further deny the people of this nation and police officers their democratic right.
Some if not all of these created Ministers departments really operate kind of like in the office of a lawyer where it’s their job to twist the truth and deceive the people into believing they are innocent while working to get the high price client off, (kind of like O.J. where the glove didn’t fit) and I strongly believe that hand picked groomed investigators play sometimes a key role in making sure the glove will never fit and nothing can happen to one of their own.
No one will convince me otherwise. Police in my view can either do a real good job or they can do a real bad one and it seems that it all depends on who they are investigating at the time and what liabilities all of their findings will have. And like you pointed out here they ignore anyone and anything that could lead to the discovery of the real truth. So don’t be offended if you didn’t get an answer to your letter that is standard protocol to drag out cases and ignore what you don’t want to acknowledge.
From what has been presented, it seems to be the senses today that real job security only seems to come to those who can fly in the opposition of truth while being blind sighted. This seems to have much rewards and perks when you choose right according to the dictates of the system you work for, protecting at all cost your bosses image along the way and the sooner you learn to go with the flow and not become a loose cannon on deck the better you will be in that kind of system.
However in my views internal pressures like that, in police, in politics and even in a church setting, will breaths dishonesty, create dictators instead of ministers and make a very dishonest system.
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hmmm… imitation or sarcasm, sometimes I get those confused as well.
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“Perhaps Fraser the real reason for the “let down” is the fact that the officers in any Canadian jurisdiction are greatly hampered in the enforcement of the law by the ever increasing load of ridiculous case law piling up. ”
There is no question we have people taking advantage of the legal system and our unwieldy court system.
It hampers the effectiveness of the officers who are truly trying to get the job done.
BUT, maybe that’s why my local RCMP Community Policing office, my local RCMP detachment, the RCMP Headquarters in Ottawa and our local RCMP Communications Officer haven’t been able to contact me after I dropped off a letter and emailed them last week with a file number.
Sorry, not trying to be facetious but as you can see I don’t have much patience for people justifying off-duty officers pepper-spraying gas station customers in my neighborhood when I have lived in the area for over 40 years, not to mention, ” (RCMP) National Criminal Operations Branch – concluded 56 per cent of all RCMP in-custody deaths in Canada between 2002 and 2006 occurred in B.C., even though only 33 per cent of the force’s officers work here.”
I can only speak for myself and my experiences. It is really too bad at this juncture Stockwell Day is initiating the panel. Surely something could have been accomplished by having this investigation but with a former RCMP member on the board it simply telegraphs what the outcome will be.
I hate those between-the-lines messages from government, so beligerent they are.
The ones like …”We are finally getting down to business on a long overdue RCMP enquiry but don’t hold out any hope, we have a former and influential RCMP officer on the panel who will skew any positive outcome and change, so abandon all hope now”.
Those types of in-between-the-lines messages the government sends out, I hate it when that happens.
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Gus, I am humbled that you found my bulleted number system the best way to communicate your point. As they say — imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
Yes, I have to agree, Stockwell Day has no power or authority over the public’s safety in his community, he is simply the Public Safety Minister by title and his duties ( as the title implies ) have nothing remotely related to “RCMP/911 systems”, their implementation, or who controls them, especially when it comes to a hometown riding, where he doesn’t have access to the mayor or the RCMP.
Bullet #5 is especially applicable. Failures of an “RCMP/911″ system in the Public Safety Minister’s home riding should be of no concern since they were moved over 20 miles away, and rightly so. The RCMP/911 system in the Public Safety Minister’s home riding and local community should be at least that far away, maybe more. I think Stockwell Day’s local RCMP/911 system should more than likely be moved to Kamloops or maybe Revelstoke, possibly Prince George. Off-shoring Penticton’s RCMP/911 system to India could be another option.
I’ll have to suggest that to him, since I lived about two blocks from his office and paid that office several visits in the past.
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Fraser, just to add to this ridiculous debate, the 911 system for Penticton is in Kelowna. The rampage that you refer to was investigated and the delay was the sole cause of the 911 operator and actually had nothing to do with the Penticton RCMP. Yes, they did not show up, but that is because they never got the call to go.
Lets recap:
1) Stockwell Day is a minister of parliament;
2) Stockwell Day does not work for the regional 911 system located in Kelowna;
3) Stockwell Day is not a police officer and not responsible for responding to 911 calls;
4) The minister of public safety is not responsible for hiring 911 operators;
5) The failure in the RCMP/911 system to protect the historical landmark occurred in Kelowna, not Penticton;
In conclusion, you need to find a better argument.
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“Fraser, your Popsicle stand analogy makes little sense, Day is not responsible for the “popsicle stand” and has nothing to do with day to day running of the penticton RCMP or the penticton 911 system.”
Okay, fair enough.
Lets recap;
1.) Stockwell Day is Minister of Public Safety.
2.)His home riding, office and home is in Penticton.
3.) The story.. “Officials in Penticton, B.C., are furious after vandals smashed up the city’s most important heritage site while a 911 operator failed to dispatch police….
Stacey Tonita was horrified on Sept. 15 to see two men smashing up the city’s historical ship exhibit on the shore of Okanagan Lake with beer bottles and two-by-fours at around 11:30 p.m….
Despite her pleas for a police response, Tonita said the dispatcher at 911 seemed unconcerned….
Police never responded to Tonita’s first call to 911, so she called several more times. There was still no response. She then followed the men in her car as they continued their path of destruction through the city.Eventually, police arrived — at 4:16 a.m., nearly five hours after the initial call was made….”
In conlclusion, Stockwell Day’s home town has 911 system that doesn’t work properly, but he’s “Minister of Public Safety”.
The RCMP fail to stop a rampage through town that destroys a major historical landmark and tourist attraction.
He’s an MP, lives in Penticton is Minister of Public Safety, but his own home riding doesn’t have a 911 system or RCMP that can help Stacey Tonita as she “followed the men in her car as they continued their path of destruction through the city.Eventually, police arrived — at 4:16 a.m., nearly five hours after the initial call was made”
OK Gus. You don’t understand the correlation between Stockwell Day being unable to make Penticton safe from a “path of destruction through the city” the RCMP investigation panel and a 911 system and home riding. Fair enough. No argument from me.
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Perhaps Fraser the real reason for the “let down” is the fact that the officers in any Canadian jurisdiction are greatly hampered in the enforcement of the law by the ever increasing load of ridiculous case law piling up.
For example, an officer attends an accident scene where there are two drivers and two vehicles. Asking who was driving what he is told by the drivers. One seems to be impaired, so the officer proceeds with the demand, arrest, breathalyser, only to have the case throw out because he apparently had no right to ask who was driving. the offender should have been subject of a criminal code investigation after and separate from the accident investigation and the officer was not allowed to use information from one to support the other, ie: his admission he drove the other vehicle. How inane.
The examples are never ending, and you should regularly preview the Appeal Court decisions and indeed the Supreme Court of Canada decisions to see how really stupid some are.
That is the reason for the drop in service, not the officers who try daily to do the job. There is a study from the University of the Fraser Valley in BC by a criminology professor by the name of Plecas. Fascinating reading. To get a drug trafficking case to court now requires 80 steps, a 600 percent increase over a number of years ago. The impaired stat is truly staggering.
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Fraser, your Popsicle stand analogy makes little sense, Day is not responsible for the “popsicle stand” and has nothing to do with day to day running of the penticton RCMP or the penticton 911 system.
You said that “It’s been reveealed the RCMP have gone back to the feds up to 900 times in one year for funding requests. Let’s see… what’ wrong with that picture?”
Whats wrong with that picture is that obviously there is not enough money being dispersed to begin with. The RCMP is always expected to take on large tasks with no additional funding. Fighting crime takes huge sums of money, plain and simple.
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“I agree that empathy across the board is lacking. In addition to some of this, the cut throat mentality has to go and the family attitude has to come back.”
I agree. Who here does not have a story from a brother or sister or parent who had a visit from the RCMP over a matter and felt let down after they left? Haven’t all our families felt impacted by their handling (mishandling?).
“Fraser, I’m not sure if you completely understand the point of this panel.”
The reason why the panel was started is because, between all the dead bodies showing up in B.C. RCMP detachments (check your stats please before you reply on that point) and situations like Mayenthorpe, Zachardelli, the pension fund, Arar amongst many many other situations, Canadians feel they deserve a lot better from the RCMP.
One of the top reasons for the national disatisfaction with the RCMP is with them investigating themselves. The country as a whole wants impartiality when it comes to reviews, panels or investigations into the RCMP. So what do the Conservatives do when they form their panel?
It’s been reveealed the RCMP have gone back to the feds up to 900 times in one year for funding requests. Let’s see… what’ wrong with that picture?
“I fail to see how the issues that you raise in regards to 2 problems with the Penticton 911 system have to do with Stockwell day? ”
If a kid can’t help run a popcicle stand don’t put him in control of the family business.
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How about getting back to what made them famous in the first place? It was not being ‘all things to all people’ while ‘doing more with less’, ‘no call too small’, nor was it environmental design to lower threat levels on businesses, or raising money for charities. Chase miscreants, put criminal behind bars, solve cases, keep people safe. Enough glad handing, photo ops at the hockey game, dropping in all over the world and a myriad of other nonsensical items. first, get the Commissioner out of the government as a Deputy Minister and put him back in his own right away from the politicos.
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Fraser, I’m not sure if you completely understand the point of this panel. The RCMP is mired in bureaucracy, but the the bureaucracy doesn’t come from only the RCMP it also includes other federal bodies such as the treasury board. All of the Federal hands in the business of the mounties is one of the reasons that change is so slow in the RCMP, unlike municipal or provincial forces that can make sweeping changes in short time to right wrongs, the RCMP is like the lumbering battleship that needs time to turn around. There are too many chiefs in control of small areas that decisions cannot be made effectively and efficiently. The changes that are recommended are those that would bring the RCMP inline with government departments such as CSIS.
And as far as having RCMP influence in a panel to determine the future of how the RCMP is governed… don’t you think the input of someone who has been through the previous system and learned it’s flaws and benefits will be an advantage to the committee. As for their choice of former RCMP members, Busson is one of the very few of the former top brass that is respected by the majority of management, RCMP members and the public. There probably couldn’t have been a better choice to add to the panel then her.
I fail to see how the issues that you raise in regards to 2 problems with the Penticton 911 system have to do with Stockwell day? Was he supposed to be taking calls on those days? If he was, your right he is to blame…
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“The panel also includes a former RCMP commissioner..”
Excellent, now we can all be very well assured there isn’t a mole or any RCMP influence whatsoever with this panel. Wow…I feel so much better. Whew…what a relief!
“The report said the Mounties were mired in bureaucracy and must have more authority to manage their own staff and finances.”
That’s fantastic! Excellent!
Right now they don’t have enough control over their force, they don’t spend enough of taxpayers money and they don’t have enough control or the ability to manage their staff. Giving the RCMP more power and control over is exactly what the doctor ordered.
Penticton is Stockwell Day’s own riding and home city, let’s see what his track record for overseeing policing?
“Officials in Penticton, B.C., are furious after vandals smashed up the city’s most important heritage site while a 911 operator failed to dispatch police (RCMP)….
two men smashing up the city’s historical ship exhibit on the shore of Okanagan Lake with beer bottles and two-by-fours at around 11:30 p.m….Police (RCMP) never responded to Tonita’s first call to 911, so she called several more times..)
Well…that pretty much settles it in my mind, Stockwell Day appointing an RCMP officer to a panel that will give the RCMP even more power and control is exactly what this country needs.
Glad to see our hard earned tax dollars are being well spent and being properly managed.
Great news!
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I agree that empathy across the board is lacking. In addition to some of this, the cut throat mentality has to go and the family attitude has to come back.
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I do not consider myself to be anti-RCMP. But I do consider myself to be pro-justice.
You don’t have to be brilliant to be a good leader in the RCMP. But you do have to understand other employees, how they feel, what makes them tick, and the best way to influence them.
There are a lot of brilliant people in the RCMP who are, and will remain ineffective leaders. Why? Because they are so interested in themselves and their own accomplishments that they never get around to appreciating and understanding the feelings of other people who are sharing the work place with them.
Sometime, usually later in life these talented, egocentric individual RCMP managers suffer painful hardships. They understand, often for the first time the kind of problems less talented or less fortunate members have suffered.
They suddenly discover a new and important dimension: Sensitivity to the feelings, emotions, and experiences of other RCMP members.
Effective leaders in the RCMP don’t wait for circumstances to bring them to their knees before they appreciate the kind of problems others are facing. Instead, they constantly try to put themselves in the other member’s shoes
(Trying to imagine how they would feel in the same circumstances) RCMP leaders are constantly aware of what makes others tick, and they try to be helpful at the same time they ask other to help them.
If there is going to be any timely meaningful change to the problems plaguing the RCMP; the above thinking has to be instilled in future RCMP leaders. Committees, boards, think tanks, will not make one bit of difference and the RCMP will go the way of the dinosaurs. There are no more opportunities left!
Calvin Lawrence
CGL consulting
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