(CBC News) – The forensic pathologist who performed the autopsy on Robert Dziekanski was not told by the Mounties that the Polish immigrant had been stunned by a Taser as many as five times, a public inquiry into his death heard Monday.
Charles Lee testified that two RCMP investigators sat in on the autopsy, and that they never said the energy weapon had been fired at least five times at Dziekanski.
“Isn’t that a significant fact, sir?” Walter Kosteckyj, the lawyer representing Dziekanski’s mother, asked Lee.
“It’s something that would have been nice to know,” Lee said about the number of shocks deployed from the Taser. “But I don’t think it would have ultimately changed my final cause of death.”
Dziekanski died Oct. 14, 2007, at Vancouver airport’s international arrivals area after being confronted by four Mounties, all of whom were summoned after he became unruly. Dziekanski stopped breathing as he lay handcuffed on the floor.
Dziekanski’s heart stopped as a result of the stress of both the Taser stuns and the struggle with police as they pinned him to the ground and handcuffed him, Lee testified.
Dziekanski died in a situation that has come to be known as “sudden death following restraint,” a phenomenon for which pathologists have no real explanation, said Lee, who has performed as many as 3,000 autopsies.
Kosteckyj also questioned Lee about what he saw in an amateur video of the incident.
Lee agreed that it looked like Dziekanski was suffering from being jolted with the Taser and appeared in pain, and his body was spasming.
But Lee couldn’t give an opinion as to which contributed more to Dziekanski’s death — the stress of the Taser stuns or the physical struggle with police as they pinned him to the ground.
Combination of factors
Lee said he doesn’t believe the Taser was responsible because sudden death occurs in other cases when the energy weapon is not used.
“In those situations, the other forms of restraint were also clearly significant,” he said.
The Taser jolts “probably contributed to his death in the same way that the tackling by the police officers played a role in his death. I can’t say one is more important than the other,” Lee said.
But he did offer an opinion about the snoring sound Dziekanski made moments after being handcuffed.
“That’s probably when he started to become unconscious, and that’s probably about the time he stopped breathing and his heart stopped,” Lee testified.
Lee said Dziekanski was in relatively good health, although there were signs of atrophy on a portion of the brain, an enlarged heart and a fatty liver.
“It certainly suggested he was [a] chronic alcoholic,” he said.
A toxicologist is expected to testify this week at the inquiry.
The provincially mandated inquiry was called in the wake of Dziekanski’s death and is being overseen by Thomas Braidwood, a retired B.C. Court of Appeal justice. Braidwood will make recommendations to prevent similar deaths and he could make findings of misconduct against the officers or anyone else involved.
Voluntary Participation, hummmm!
You seem to be so informed. May I ask what level of position you hold within the force and why you seem to without fault defend all actions of the members? Would you be the former Commissioner or the present one right now or someone from his office?
So why did they need the assurance no one would be charged before they co-operated and why don’t they just leave or is it to late, I hope this inquiry is not fixed already.
Instead of having an undying allegence to the force why don’t you use your passions to assure the SAFETY and SECURITY of the people of this country and travellers visiting us before war as you so put it breaks out?
I don’t even think Communist countries kill people in airports even if you still think this was an accident.
Just remember one thing; the definition of an ACCIDENT is something that is out of your control not something acted upon, that is a MISTAKE.
Don’t blame the stapler, don’t blame the tazer blame the excessive force used and the lack of compassion they demonstrated theafter.
Stopping the EMS or the Firefighters from doing their jobs that morning is far from using common sence and those officers should be handled accordingly.
These actions are not accidents but poor deliberate decissions.
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Do not read anything into the fact that the pathologist was not told he was tasered. The pathologist is supposed to examine and render his findings without any outside influence. Nice to know and need to know are quite different in law.
The coroner conducts his investigation and that is where the surrounding facts are related. The pathologist is a cog in the machine.
Are you suggesting that the police should be influencing the pathologist?
Never cooperate? Their participation in this inquiry is voluntary.
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It’s not what they put in the file that makes it come out the way it does but what they keep away from people that gets them what they want.
What they did with the video, with the media and with the Phatologist they do also with all the others and that’s why they take their time and why they hide their investigations and never want to co-operate with anyone.
It’s about time this onternal corruption came out and it’s long over due too.
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