Comments on: No charges to be laid against RCMP officers in airport Taser death http://www.rcmpwatch.com/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-rcmp-officers-in-airport-taser-death/ Who is keeping them accountable? Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:35:43 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Lawrence A. Oshanek http://www.rcmpwatch.com/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-rcmp-officers-in-airport-taser-death/comment-page-1/#comment-2912 Lawrence A. Oshanek Mon, 05 Jan 2009 19:07:51 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=1494#comment-2912 Gee Deepthroat there's more .... One eyewitness publicly said that the RCMP did not want to take her statement and that she insisted that she make a written statement and then she waited over two hours before she was given the 'right' to detail, in writing, what she saw. I am told that several other witnesses left without giving any written statements that night after being told by RCM police that their statements were not needed by police. Conspiracy? Cover-up? Whitewash? What of the selective quotes taken from the witness statements which only harm the reputation of the dead man ... yep, without the tape, we would have believed everything the police told us and dismissed the eye witnesses as being wtrong or 'anti police'. I am ashamed of the RCMP and the Attorney General of B.C. and I am ashamed that a previously worthwhile institution has to be identified with this kind of garbage output by those who believe that protecting the reputation of that institution by lying to the people of this country is a legitimate process. A single woman survived her encounter with Mr. Dz. and she has paid a bigger price then those who contributed to his death. "Suden death following restraint" is a meaningless excuse suggesting that the man would have died even if the poolice had just said 'please'. This is and was a disgraceful event and makeing fun of the amount of seconds passing before zapping Mr. Dz. is childish! Gee Deepthroat there’s more …. One eyewitness publicly said that the RCMP did not want to take her statement and that she insisted that she make a written statement and then she waited over two hours before she was given the ‘right’ to detail, in writing, what she saw. I am told that several other witnesses left without giving any written statements that night after being told by RCM police that their statements were not needed by police. Conspiracy? Cover-up? Whitewash? What of the selective quotes taken from the witness statements which only harm the reputation of the dead man … yep, without the tape, we would have believed everything the police told us and dismissed the eye witnesses as being wtrong or ‘anti police’. I am ashamed of the RCMP and the Attorney General of B.C. and I am ashamed that a previously worthwhile institution has to be identified with this kind of garbage output by those who believe that protecting the reputation of that institution by lying to the people of this country is a legitimate process. A single woman survived her encounter with Mr. Dz. and she has paid a bigger price then those who contributed to his death. “Suden death following restraint” is a meaningless excuse suggesting that the man would have died even if the poolice had just said ‘please’. This is and was a disgraceful event and makeing fun of the amount of seconds passing before zapping Mr. Dz. is childish!

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]]> By: No charges to be laid against RCMP officers in airport Taser death « 4WardEver UK Newsvine http://www.rcmpwatch.com/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-rcmp-officers-in-airport-taser-death/comment-page-1/#comment-2911 No charges to be laid against RCMP officers in airport Taser death « 4WardEver UK Newsvine Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:48:47 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=1494#comment-2911 [...] Read full article > 13th December 2008 [...] [...] Read full article > 13th December 2008 [...]

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]]> By: Deepthroat http://www.rcmpwatch.com/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-rcmp-officers-in-airport-taser-death/comment-page-1/#comment-2909 Deepthroat Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:30:28 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=1494#comment-2909 I am glad that is cleared up, I thought it was 24 seconds. I am glad that is cleared up, I thought it was 24 seconds.

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]]> By: Lawrence A. Oshanek http://www.rcmpwatch.com/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-rcmp-officers-in-airport-taser-death/comment-page-1/#comment-2901 Lawrence A. Oshanek Mon, 29 Dec 2008 18:35:05 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=1494#comment-2901 No mention (in the BC AG's report) is made of the woman who safely approched Mr. Dz and tried in several languages to communicate with him. Are we to believe that the first taser hit (23-1/2 seconds after first police contact) had no electrical or painful effect on Mr. Dz? His cries of pain and the resulting falling forward were only acting for a camera he knew nothing about? See the study done in Israel on Tasers. It found that the prods did not have to contact the skin for the taser to deliver it's voltage to the victim and remember Mr. Dz.'s cries of pain as he loses control of his body well before any police officer physically contacts him. "The taser didn't work" is so much bullscat that the entire BC AG report must be viewed for the trash it is! And trash it is. Sorry pal, the taser is a cowards weapon and it has too often been used in a cowardly way! No mention (in the BC AG’s report) is made of the woman who safely approched Mr. Dz and tried in several languages to communicate with him. Are we to believe that the first taser hit (23-1/2 seconds after first police contact) had no electrical or painful effect on Mr. Dz?

His cries of pain and the resulting falling forward were only acting for a camera he knew nothing about?

See the study done in Israel on Tasers. It found that the prods did not have to contact the skin for the taser to deliver it’s voltage to the victim and remember Mr. Dz.’s cries of pain as he loses control of his body well before any police officer physically contacts him.

“The taser didn’t work” is so much bullscat that the entire BC AG report must be viewed for the trash it is! And trash it is. Sorry pal, the taser is a cowards weapon and it has too often been used in a cowardly way!

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]]> By: Deepthroat http://www.rcmpwatch.com/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-rcmp-officers-in-airport-taser-death/comment-page-1/#comment-2898 Deepthroat Sun, 28 Dec 2008 00:22:24 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=1494#comment-2898 Who is not in this conspiracy of cover up? Obviously the entire Criminal Justice Branch and the AG himself. My God, its huge. Reminds me of Colonel Flagg in MASH catching the co-conspirators in the act..... Who is not in this conspiracy of cover up? Obviously the entire Criminal Justice Branch and the AG himself. My God, its huge. Reminds me of Colonel Flagg in MASH catching the co-conspirators in the act…..

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]]> By: Lawrence A. Oshanek http://www.rcmpwatch.com/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-rcmp-officers-in-airport-taser-death/comment-page-1/#comment-2893 Lawrence A. Oshanek Tue, 23 Dec 2008 21:23:51 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=1494#comment-2893 Steve Tuttle thinks he leads "the Canadian court of public opinion". Sadly, the finding of the BC AG in the Robert Dz. affair has done more lasting harm to the public reputation of the RCMP then any other thing which the RCMP have done to themselves recently. Plainly put, "torture Tuttle" should just shut his yankee carpetbagger mouth since he only makes things worse for those many good RCM police officers who do not conduct themselves in the way that the 4 RCMP members did when faced with Mr. Dz. A sorry affair that does not enhance the public's respect for the law and is or has been made worse by the fact that the lead officer in the Robert Dz. affair has been charged with impaired driving after killing another innocent raising serious issues with repect to that police officer's judgement. Lawrence Oshanek / Calgary Steve Tuttle thinks he leads “the Canadian court of public opinion”. Sadly, the finding of the BC AG in the Robert Dz. affair has done more lasting harm to the public reputation of the RCMP then any other thing which the RCMP have done to themselves recently. Plainly put, “torture Tuttle” should just shut his yankee carpetbagger mouth since he only makes things worse for those many good RCM police officers who do not conduct themselves in the way that the 4 RCMP members did when faced with Mr. Dz. A sorry affair that does not enhance the public’s respect for the law and is or has been made worse by the fact that the lead officer in the Robert Dz. affair has been charged with impaired driving after killing another innocent raising serious issues with repect to that police officer’s judgement.

Lawrence Oshanek / Calgary

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]]> By: RCMP Watch http://www.rcmpwatch.com/no-charges-to-be-laid-against-rcmp-officers-in-airport-taser-death/comment-page-1/#comment-2889 RCMP Watch Sun, 14 Dec 2008 11:41:28 +0000 http://www.rcmpwatch.com/?p=1494#comment-2889 Report says Taser not direct cause of death Ronald J. Hansen and Robert Anglen - The Arizona Republic Pathologists in British Columbia have concluded that Taser stun guns did not directly cause, but might have played a role in, the 2007 death of a Polish immigrant at a Vancouver airport. The death of Robert Dziekanski has created an uproar in Canada over the safety of the stun guns. A report released Friday said three pathologists concluded that Dziekanski, 41, died from "sudden death following restraint" with no definite cause. The factors that might have contributed to his death were heart disease from alcohol abuse, agitated delirium, physical stress made worse by the Taser shocks, inability to breathe and alcohol withdrawal, the report said. The report, issued by the province's top law-enforcement officer, announced that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police acted appropriately and would not be prosecuted for shocking and arresting Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport after he became unruly. Dziekanski died moments after being shocked at least four times by one officer using a Taser. The death led to an official inquiry about the weapons. A study released last week found that the Taser X26, which is used by thousands of police in the U.S. and Canada, can fire more electricity than the company says is possible and that its output can carry up to a 50 percent risk of cardiac arrest in some cases. Steve Tuttle, a Taser vice president, said Friday's report confirms the company's view that their weapons don't kill. The report "has overturned the Canadian court of public opinion, which for over a year has laid blame on the RCMP officers and the use of a Taser device for the unfortunate death of Mr. Dziekanski," Tuttle said. Report says Taser not direct cause of death

Ronald J. Hansen and Robert Anglen –
The Arizona Republic

Pathologists in British Columbia have concluded that Taser stun guns did not directly cause, but might have played a role in, the 2007 death of a Polish immigrant at a Vancouver airport.

The death of Robert Dziekanski has created an uproar in Canada over the safety of the stun guns.

A report released Friday said three pathologists concluded that Dziekanski, 41, died from “sudden death following restraint” with no definite cause. The factors that might have contributed to his death were heart disease from alcohol abuse, agitated delirium, physical stress made worse by the Taser shocks, inability to breathe and alcohol withdrawal, the report said.

The report, issued by the province’s top law-enforcement officer, announced that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police acted appropriately and would not be prosecuted for shocking and arresting Dziekanski at Vancouver International Airport after he became unruly.

Dziekanski died moments after being shocked at least four times by one officer using a Taser. The death led to an official inquiry about the weapons. A study released last week found that the Taser X26, which is used by thousands of police in the U.S. and Canada, can fire more electricity than the company says is possible and that its output can carry up to a 50 percent risk of cardiac arrest in some cases.

Steve Tuttle, a Taser vice president, said Friday’s report confirms the company’s view that their weapons don’t kill.

The report “has overturned the Canadian court of public opinion, which for over a year has laid blame on the RCMP officers and the use of a Taser device for the unfortunate death of Mr. Dziekanski,” Tuttle said.

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