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	<description>Who is keeping them accountable?</description>
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		<title>By: Deepthroat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deepthroat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They already have civilian oversight in the complaints process.  Its called the CPC.  Check out their website, their programs and comment on those.  If you are referring to the everyday complaints such as &quot;attitude&quot; and not harm or death involving police, then you will have to overhaul the entire police complaints systems in Canada.  Pick up your checkbook because your taxes will rise.

I am sure the various police forces would gladly rid themselves of the thousands of man hours frivolous and vexatious complaint investigations, along with the serious ones.  Police Chiefs have already acknowledged they would like to see this, and the RCMP has already stated it will comply with whatever the Federal government institutes.  Like it would have a choice anyway.

Interesting link CL, but they courts have already decided the RCMP can unionize.  The Mounted Police Associations do not represent the rank and file of the RCMP, but rather a small and vocal group.  Their number are very small in comparison to the number of officers in the Force.

Some of the registrants on your link have successfully sued the RCMP and Federal government for hefty sums, some of which are still working for the RCMP which begs the question if it is so bad why are they still here?  And if it was so bad to you, why did you spend 26 years there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They already have civilian oversight in the complaints process.  Its called the CPC.  Check out their website, their programs and comment on those.  If you are referring to the everyday complaints such as &#8220;attitude&#8221; and not harm or death involving police, then you will have to overhaul the entire police complaints systems in Canada.  Pick up your checkbook because your taxes will rise.</p>
<p>I am sure the various police forces would gladly rid themselves of the thousands of man hours frivolous and vexatious complaint investigations, along with the serious ones.  Police Chiefs have already acknowledged they would like to see this, and the RCMP has already stated it will comply with whatever the Federal government institutes.  Like it would have a choice anyway.</p>
<p>Interesting link CL, but they courts have already decided the RCMP can unionize.  The Mounted Police Associations do not represent the rank and file of the RCMP, but rather a small and vocal group.  Their number are very small in comparison to the number of officers in the Force.</p>
<p>Some of the registrants on your link have successfully sued the RCMP and Federal government for hefty sums, some of which are still working for the RCMP which begs the question if it is so bad why are they still here?  And if it was so bad to you, why did you spend 26 years there?</p>
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		<title>By: Alcan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well spoken C.L, finally some truth coming out here instead of blowing smoke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well spoken C.L, finally some truth coming out here instead of blowing smoke.</p>
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		<title>By: Calvin Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Calvin Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 16:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.dpylaw.com/rcmp.swf

Click on the above web site.
Click on    The Application (upper left)
Scroll down and click on names

What happened to the core values and justice by the RCMP for those members?

The core values as it relates to the RCMP are written in heaven but the members are living on earth.

Until the public realizes that the glorious red serge and the musical ride have nothing to do with sound management practices and proper policing procedures we all will be living in a fools paradise. 

 In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king!

Calvin Lawrence
CGL Consulting</description>
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<p>Click on the above web site.<br />
Click on    The Application (upper left)<br />
Scroll down and click on names</p>
<p>What happened to the core values and justice by the RCMP for those members?</p>
<p>The core values as it relates to the RCMP are written in heaven but the members are living on earth.</p>
<p>Until the public realizes that the glorious red serge and the musical ride have nothing to do with sound management practices and proper policing procedures we all will be living in a fools paradise. </p>
<p> In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king!</p>
<p>Calvin Lawrence<br />
CGL Consulting</p>
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		<title>By: tracker07</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracker07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Civilian oversight in the complaints process would compel the RCMP to act responsible. The RCMP ethical standards are set out below.

&quot;RCMP ethical standards are based on six core values:

 integrity, honesty, professionalism, compassion, respect and accountability . 

These core values make up the basis of every decision we make and help us determine how we should conduct ourselves everyday. Closely following these values allows employees to make informed and ethical judgements in business dealings and the workplace. It is critical that we make sound decisions as we are accountable for them in the end.&quot;

&quot;Ethics and Integrity in the RCMP&quot; 
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ei/index-eng.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Civilian oversight in the complaints process would compel the RCMP to act responsible. The RCMP ethical standards are set out below.</p>
<p>&#8220;RCMP ethical standards are based on six core values:</p>
<p> integrity, honesty, professionalism, compassion, respect and accountability . </p>
<p>These core values make up the basis of every decision we make and help us determine how we should conduct ourselves everyday. Closely following these values allows employees to make informed and ethical judgements in business dealings and the workplace. It is critical that we make sound decisions as we are accountable for them in the end.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Ethics and Integrity in the RCMP&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ei/index-eng.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ei/index-eng.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alcan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alcan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 02:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fat chance anyone will suceed at doing anything here. 

There style and method of operations goes back much to far, they are to wide spread in to many departments accross Canada, have had their way for to long and it&#039;s to deep routed to ever think they will do things, another way. 

Why would the RCMP Commission for Public Complaints rule that a Mountie used excessive force, or otherwise acted improperly and wimp out and allow top brass at RCMP headquarters to over-ruled the finding?

Because no one has authority over the force and no one has the guts to attempt to do something and that is why some of them are out of control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fat chance anyone will suceed at doing anything here. </p>
<p>There style and method of operations goes back much to far, they are to wide spread in to many departments accross Canada, have had their way for to long and it&#8217;s to deep routed to ever think they will do things, another way. </p>
<p>Why would the RCMP Commission for Public Complaints rule that a Mountie used excessive force, or otherwise acted improperly and wimp out and allow top brass at RCMP headquarters to over-ruled the finding?</p>
<p>Because no one has authority over the force and no one has the guts to attempt to do something and that is why some of them are out of control.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepthroat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deepthroat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 18:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the Montreal gazette doesn&#039;t read the Vancouver Sun.

In the cases where the Commissioner vetoed the CPC chair or tempered the recommendations, the Chair was all wet.  Not even he is right all the time.

The BCCLA is quietly working through  the pivot legal society for its complaints.  Boycott? ya right, more politics.  Most people want the RCMP to be accountable Provincially.  BCCLA doesn&#039;t like either system.  Of course not.  They are lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the Montreal gazette doesn&#8217;t read the Vancouver Sun.</p>
<p>In the cases where the Commissioner vetoed the CPC chair or tempered the recommendations, the Chair was all wet.  Not even he is right all the time.</p>
<p>The BCCLA is quietly working through  the pivot legal society for its complaints.  Boycott? ya right, more politics.  Most people want the RCMP to be accountable Provincially.  BCCLA doesn&#8217;t like either system.  Of course not.  They are lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: tracker07</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracker07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the BCCLA is on the right path. 

Journal of the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association
Page 4 

“The BCCLA has decided to boycott
the police complaint procedures
for both municipal police and the
RCMP”.

http://www.bccla.org/newsletter/BCCLA_news_fall2008.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the BCCLA is on the right path. </p>
<p>Journal of the British Columbia Civil Liberties Association<br />
Page 4 </p>
<p>“The BCCLA has decided to boycott<br />
the police complaint procedures<br />
for both municipal police and the<br />
RCMP”.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bccla.org/newsletter/BCCLA_news_fall2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.bccla.org/newsletter/BCCLA_news_fall2008.pdf</a></p>
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